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intrigueing ([personal profile] intrigueing) wrote2015-06-05 04:38 pm

29 Days of Star Trek Meme: Day 1

Stolen from [personal profile] selenak , whose answer to the meme starts here.

Day 1 - Which Star Trek series is your favorite?

Hard to pick between TOS and TNG. I love them both more than DS9, and I do, in fact, think they are better than DS9, in a certain way. They are not better shows than DS9, but a better show has nothing to do with being a better thing. DS9 is a better show than TOS or TNG in terms of having less of the kinds of stuff that tends to make a show bad -- less ignored and flat and ill-used characters, less facepalmy and winceworthy material, less oversimplified black-and-white declarations, and less dated deviations from a number of narrow, ephemeral, value-neutral current-day storytelling features that people are impressed by in 2015. It is not, however, better than TOS or TNG in terms of the gross quantity of awesome that is contained within it, (though it does come very, very, very close.)

However, I love TOS and TNG in such completely different ways I can't really compare them. For example, I barely read any fanfic for TNG, and find a lot of the TNG fandom to be annoying or pointless. It's also not a show I enjoy critically. At all. My interest in analyzing TNG is so far below zero that my reaction to analysis of it makes my eyes glaze over and then I will eventually say "what is this shit you are talking about? Why would I care about it? Do you remember that time when the computer told Dr. Crusher that the universe was a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter?" I just love to absorb it and bask in it. My TNG love is for it as a show that I watched with my family completely oblivious to any hint of fandom when I was younger, and which introduced me to the concept of future-fantasizing in sci-fi. I can barely think of it as a show at all. It is more of a mental space.

TOS, on the other hand, I discovered completely on my own, watched on my own, and got into the fandom short after discovering it, and TOS was my introduction to fandom and fanfiction. My love for TOS, my experience of watching TOS, and my memories of TOS are completely entwined with the framework of fandom and fanfic, and my personal experiences of discovering fandom and fanfic, and the (highly enjoyable) exercise of mental dissonance and elaborate "authorial intent? what authorial intent?" explanations and cherry-picking what parts to train a microscope on and what parts to judiciously allow to fade out of focus (cough cough, sexism) that is involved in seriously delving into this show on a fandom analysis meta level. And, of course, the elaborate mockery that is irresistible to not indulge in when watching it. My approach to TOS is the diametric opposite of my approach to TNG -- it's entirely about sussing out deeper meanings and nuances and implications and theories and fanon and building it into a bigger and more detailed story than the show.

Apples and oranges, really.


Day 2 - Who is your favorite character?
Day 3 - Who is your least favorite character?
Day 4 - What was the first episode/movie you watched?
Day 5 - What was the first Star Trek series you watched?
Day 6 - Your favorite canon pairing? (Canon being the series and the movies, including the reboot.)
Day 7 - Your favorite non-canon pairing?
Day 8 - Your favorite actor/actress? (Not the same as character.)
Day 9 - What's your favorite episode?
Day 10 - What's your favorite species? (Humans are a species as well.)
Day 11 - What's your least favorite species? (See question 9 about species.)
Day 12 - What's your favorite funny moment?
Day 13 - What's your favorite dramatic moment?
Day 14 - What's your favorite Star Trek quote?
Day 15 - How did you get into Star Trek?
Day 16 - Are you involved with Star Trek fandom?
Day 17 - Have you read any of the books? If so, which ones?
Day 18 - If you could be any species in the Star Trek universe, what would you be?
Day 19 - How did the Star Trek reboot affect you?
Day 20 - Of the minor characters (one shots, not the recurring ones) who’s your favorite?
Day 21 - Which Star Trek food would you want to try at least once?
Day 22 - Which Star Trek world would you want to visit at least once?
Day 23 - Is there anything you'd want to change about Star Trek? Why?
Day 24 - Is there anything about Star Trek that has disappointed you?
Day 25 - How has Star Trek changed you?
Day 26 - Lots of Star Trek Parodies out there. Which do you dig?
Day 27 - What would you cross over with Star Trek?
Day 28 - Your favorite friendship in Star Trek?
Day 29 - If you could tell Gene Roddenberry one thing, Star Trek related or not, what would it be?
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2015-06-07 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods nods*

I definitely think a show needs to start with arcness rather than having it introduced later.

Mostly what I wanted from TNG beyond an over-arching story arc was more character development. I think Data, Picard, Wesley, and Troi a smidgen develop and change over the course of the series but Geordi, Crusher, Riker, Guinan (who arguably probably shouldn't change any as the Wise Alien figure), Worf (who even though he becomes a father in TNG, I don't think really develops as a character until DS9) are all pretty much exactly the same at the beginning of the show as they are ten years later. I like who they are; I love Crusher and what a good mom she is and how empathetic Geordi is and how silly Riker is underneath the Number One persona. They're good characters. IDK

I do love TNG, and I'm making it sound like I don't. LOL
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2015-06-08 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes a lot of sense.

I feel the same way about Game of Thrones, largely. I know it's problematic, but I just love it anyway.